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August 09, 2007

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Gideon

What a great suggestion. What size bungee cord did you use?

Thanks,

Gideon

Justyna

I used the medium size. The shorty ones are too short, and the longest ones would require more wrapping. I don't believe they are standardized, but a length of 10-12 inches should work. If you find that it is too loose the way I have it shown in the photo, cross the hooks over each other, pull them further out, and hook directly into the bottom of the milk crate.

"Here in Chicago, milk crates are readily available for free"

When you take a milk crate, it is called THEFT.

Justyna

Geez, you coulda signed your name. I wasn't actually advocating stealing milk crates from the back of the grocery store. I personally have found milk crates, abandoned, I assume, on the side of the road, in the alleys by garbage cans, at the recycling center and in the empty apartments after the occupants have moved out. I hardly consider making good use of those milk crates THEFT. If you can't find an abandoned milk crate, you can, as I suggested, buy a cheap substitute at an office supply store. The whole point is to use available resources, and not necessarily make bike riders spend tons of money on expensive gear.

Ross

In my experience, zip ties get the crate way tighter, way faster than a bungee or other strap. You can yank them super-tight with a needle-nosed pliers. Replacing them when I remove my crate is a small consequence, given that buy them in packs of like 50 or so.
As for leg/butt rub, I just cut my crate back a little bit and there's no issue - the front fits under my seat.
Aside from installation issues, crates offer two distinct cargo advantages over pannier bags: first, they don't make your bike wider, so you can still squeeze between two taxis or whatever; and second, you can put fragile stuff in there and it doesn't get smushed like it could it a flexible bag. Try a stretchy cargo net (a couple bucks at Performance, if your LBS doesn't carry them) and you can pile stuff high. Go Crate!
Ross

Justyna

I actually agree with you on the zip ties for ease of use. But, surprisingly, many people don't have them lying around the house, so I wanted to use something most people would already have. For the record, zip ties are available at hardware stores and home improvement centers, and are infinitely useful things to have around.

Laura

Thanks for the info about how you "installed" your bike crate. I've been using a flimsy fake milk crate, attached with bungee cords, and it tipped over on my way home yesterday...so I've been trying to figure out a better way to mount it. (Also, I will maybe try an actual milk crate...) I'll try your suggestion for how to thread the bungee through the rack & crate, and zip ties (which I actually happen to have) sound like a great idea, too! THANK YOU!

Polly

Have you ever had your milk crate stolen? I was thinking about locking it to my rack--I know that seems silly, but I'm a cheap ass- not to mention broke.

Johnny

I've had luck with metal hose clamps. You can take them off with a screw driver, and they can get really really tight. They cost a little more (maybe a buck a piece), but you can reuse them for a lot of things.

I really dig your green milkcrate:)

steve

For a locking milk crate, cut the bottom off of another, which fits snug to the top of yours, file the edges, then use a couple of metal rings for hinges.(can be fabricated out of small parts in a hardware store). Stick a lock on the other side.

mike

I've had problems with the tipping crate also, my solution was to get u-bolts from the hardware store with a flat plate that lies across the ends. Works great, easy to take on and off plus it's totally stable.

Tracy

I'm interested in that u-bolt idea but I can't picture it. Could you describe it a little more? thx.

henry

I've got my black milk crate held on by black zip ties (on my black rack). Once you tighten 'em and cut the remaining plastic off the end... you can't even tell they are there. I can't understand why you'd want to use a bungee cord for this. Zip ties are as readily available as a bungee. Also, with zip ties you get flat surface in the bottom of your crate and the crate doesn't move when you load it down with groceries. I do have some bungee netting that I stretch over the top of the crate when I get more groceries than I planned. It holds them in nicely.

Thanks... i'm really enjoying yer blog here in Tucson.

Justyna

Why not zip-ties? Well, I've had a few of them break with use, and also, when you trim the ends, they can leave a sharp edge, which sometimes make unexpected and unpleasant contact with my knuckles. I also like the bunji cords, because I can fairly easily remove and reinstall the crate without tearing through my garage looking for zipties, hardware, or tools (I always, always have bunjis). But I am not a despot when it comes to milk crate installation. Please feel free to use your own method.
In fact, since this is my number one most popular post, I may even do another one on the different ways to attach a milk crate.

Cazzbo

Zip ties (we call them cable ties) are definitely my preferred method of attaching a crate to a bike rack... I wouldn't consider a Bungee strap (octopus or 'occy' strap), they're just not stable enough, and would create annoying 'bumps' inside the crate. Sure, a zip tie might break, but they never all break at once, so it's easy to replace (or add more). As mentioned, you can get them super-tight with the aid of pliers, then trim off the excess for a neat job (all my trimmed-off bits are under the crate, no chance of snags or injuries.

http://www.geocities.com/cazzjohns6/bikeloads

Justyna

Actually, lack of stability has not been a problem. You just have to get it tight enough. And I am not annoyed by the bumps. Each method has its merits.

Peachy

do milk crates get stolen off of bikes that often?

Justyna

sometimes. but they are easy to replace, unlike expensive bike gear. that's why they are great in theft-prone urban areas.

george

A Green enthuaist,thanks for all the helpful insight's,and step by step instructional's. you done Something, to enhance a Global-passion,and the Human-perspective/journey. George612

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